Sunday, January 27, 2008
Spyware
After running those removal programs all morning i got fed up, dug thru my junk til i found my restore CD's and wiped everything and reformatted back to the settings the pc had when i got it. That was more fun than you can imagine. It took the rest of the day Saturday and a good chunk of today to get the PC back to where i wanted it. On the bright side it runs quite a bit faster.
Things are going great at the steal league. New players come in every week and some old timers too. Glad to see them all. Check every day for tourneys they wont always be on the front page.
Cya at the tables
Friday, January 25, 2008
Words Stuff
urb---- an urban area
cru----A vineyard or wine-producing region in France.
ahi----Japanese for yellowfin tuna
rai----a style of Algerian popular music played on electric guitar, synthesizer, and percussion instruments
pst----–interjection -(used to attract someone's attention in an unobtrusive manner.)
vum----Used to express surprise (new england expression)
zuz---- an ancient Hebrew silver coin, the fourth part of a silver shekel
Hope this helps your game gl and cya at the tables.
Monday, January 14, 2008
Words
Diapir/s--- di·a·pir [dahy-uh-peer] –noun Geology.
a dome, or anticline, the upper regions of which have been ruptured and penetrated by material squeezed up from below. ----—Related forms di·a·pir·ic I dont know if there are any other steals for this word.
The next word i have seen before but Dorcas played it in a game and its a good 1 to remember.
Ootid/s -----o·o·tid [oh-uh-tid] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–noun Cell Biology. --the cell that results from the meiotic divisions of an oocyte and matures into an ovum.
I dont know of any steals for this 1 anyone has 1 please email me.
Next is 1 i like to use alot and has a few ways to steal it
Helot/s----Hel·ot [hel-uht, hee-luht]
–noun 1. a member of the lowest class in ancient Laconia, constituting a body of serfs who were bound to the land and were owned by the state.
2. a serf or slave; bondman. —Related forms ....helotage/s--- helotism/s--- helotry---helotries
Hope this helps in your games ... see ya at the tables
Sunday, January 13, 2008
Even more stuff
This is the last comment from mr hoosierdipshit....."we finally agree on something, your blog is crap and so are you. seems you can dish it out but cant take it in return. as always, you amaze me with your gutless, soulless, spineless remarks. "
Funny stuff dickbreath, but im the one who posts under a name everyone knows, for the world to read, i am not the one hiding behind an alias. And if my blog is crap why do you keep coming back? Thats at least twice today that you have managed to fall into the crap that is my blog. Because you are obviously one of the unfortunates that has to ride the short bus to school i will tell you one more time... if you want to blast me leave your real name.
Have a nice night.
more stuff
Again , have a nice day!
Stuff
Wednesday, January 09, 2008
Stuff
Reminders.... I am trying most nights to host straight steal at seven pm. Wordsteal ladder room. Hope you can all join us. Synergy league at hoyle has tourneys most nights at 11 and midnight for the late owls. Wish i could be there but i leave the house for work about 4-430 am for work and being that i am old i need my sleep.
Since this is a wordsteal/wordox blog i thought i would try shifting back more to the art of the game in my posts instead of the bs . OxtailSoup posted some words in the lobby that she learned playing Dorcas and i thought i would post them here for everyone with steals and definitions if i can find any.
lehr/s n. ----- an oven used to anneal glass no steals that i could find.
kyar/s n. --------Cocoanut fiber, or the cordage made from it. steals include stockyard brickyard backyard and junkyard
tonsure/s/tonsured –noun
1.
the act of cutting the hair or shaving the head.
2.
the shaving of the head or of some part of it as a religious practice or rite, esp. in preparation for entering the priesthood or a monastic order.
3.
the part of a cleric's head, usually the crown, left bare by shaving the hair.
4.
the state of being shorn.
goutier adjective
1.
pertaining to or of the nature of gout.
2.
causing gout.
3.
diseased with or subject to gout.
4.
swollen as if from gout.
Ok that should do it for today ;-)
Monday, January 07, 2008
just for the record
Sunday, January 06, 2008
More Years End Stuff

Time for a New Years Shout out to a number of people.....
HollyPeenyo ..... Hey Pard i miss the tourneys and all the destruction we were responsible for. It was fun even when we had the rare loss because then i got to make up funny excuses for why we lost a match. Lmao when i wrote some of them i could puicture Dorcas fuming in rage when she read them.
Dorcas.... Im glad you are trying to learn the art of trash talk. A bit of B.S. can make people laugh and the world always needs a good laugh.
Minifrump..... Good to see you around Trish..... Congrats again on that new grandbaby!!!
Natssssss..... It has been a blast playing you Nats. You have given me more than 1 good laugh too ;-) I cant wait to analyze our next match xxxxx lol
Star/ my graphics admin....... Im very happy for you and your family, i hope things work out where you can play more. I appreciate everything you have done over the years . xxxxx
BrianSmallacombe... If not many of you know this guy, he plays at hoyle on the FSW cases ladder. He is what i consider a methodical player. If you arent very careful before you know it he has whipped your ass and you are left sitting wondering what the hell just happened.
MadHooker/Aka PatriotTim.... Dude if ever there was an award for post game analysis you win!
The Gruesome Twosome Sneakypete and Redberry...... My co-admins... I have had more fun giving you 2 hell this year.... Im sitting here now thinking up new stuff to do lol. Im glad you are both around to make the league fun!!!
Melisca...... Smooches babe , can you come over tonight????
Mummykins...... You did not read that!!!
Dusty..... Bratass :P
Duncs.... Thanks for the chats , im glad we have a better understanding going on.
Cait.... Its been good to see you around lately , i hope you can come on more often.
Bronzelonna ..... Im glad you found us lonna good to have you in the Steal league!!
Red_Dawn .....Next time you *lose it* i hope you* find it* lol
Cherirock..... Glad i could help ya ;-) come play more often!!
And to the people i didnt mention and there are many , I look forward to playing you in 08' Lets have a good time.
HNY all cya at the tables!!
Wednesday, January 02, 2008
A few resolutions and the 2007 Big Balls Awards

Friday, December 28, 2007
The Holidays
Monday, December 17, 2007
In Reply to Old Shep
"Yes, I do dislike losing. the same as any other competitive player on here does. I am sure Perrin and Wordie hate losing, especially to someone they consider a 'lesser' player (and theres plenty of them in their cases). " (OldShep)
As for me and i speak only for me here , I truly do not mind losing to what you call a lesser player. I find that in most cases it ramps up their confidence, usually (hopefully) they are thinking Hey!! i beat this s.ob. once i can do it again. That makes it a more competitive game and a better experience for both of us. However i do hate like hell to lose to players that are my equal or better skillwise such as Wordman ,Dorcas etc and there are quite a few in the etc category. Thats just my competitive nature kicking in. Ok Moving on......
Here another comment this time in full
I am quite disappointed, Perrin!!You never added to this post that, in fact, I was right.. as relayed to you by a HTD from our League.You forget that Cases and Myleague have different rules ( as Wordie found out ....... the 2 boot rule actually applies in FSW, not MyLeague, I believe)You have carefully edited that log off the chat, I notice. You told me I need a TD guide but I didn't need to because I still have one and rule No1 is NO dupes!!Obviously my beef wasn't with you that evening which I did explain to you. It was with a TD who was being too lazy to sort the 'blue' out which would have taken her 5 seconds.I must say, you have a vast array of insults which is hardly surprising considering your vocabulary. I don't recall ever being rude to you whether it is during a game or in the lobby. I think the only one I object to is being called a bully ........ because that is false. Arrogant?? Yep!! Miserable??? YEP!!! Asshole?? I can be!!Oh well, at least I won't be the only arrogant asshole (your words) in FSW now :o))Regards the 'cheap win' I got against you.. I would gladly swap that for a legitimate win over you ..... same as I would against Wordman or Natssss. I rarely take 'foul' wins. Despite being a miserable, arrogant asshole etc etc, ask around!! I have given resets 90% of the time people have fouled against me
I hate to disagree with you Shep but i think you had a beef about playing me that evening admit it or not. Otherwise why would you not go ahead and play me and take up the situation later with a td manager or ladder op instead of letting me take the moral high road by giving you a free win? Instead you bullied the td . How you ask ? You knew it was too late for her to change the pairs yet you caused a scene in the lobby , refused to play the match and threatened to report her if she posted the win to me. I hope you felt good about it.
Now for the last bit "By the way, as an aside to your little remark about thumping my fat head ........ I didn't get to do CP work with the Dubai Royal Family for 3 years by not being able to look after myself :o)))) " Great !! If i ever meet you i wont feel bad about thumping you ;-)
Rank Hounds / Leapfroggers
Rank Hounding: Players in the Top Ten are expected to be as active after they reach the top ranks as they were before. In other words, if you are playing 20 games a day to make it to the Top Ten and then only play once a week to hold your rank you may be penalized.
Leapfrogging: Players in the Top Ten should try to play the person ranked directly below them at least once every three days. If you are found to be avoiding challenges that put your rank at risk your account will be penalized.
on the first an example would be , if you are the # 2 player on your ladder and you play every day and capture the # 1 spot then disappear for a couple of days or avoid laddermatches or tourneys with the former #1 playing that in my opinion is rank hounding. On leapfrogging... If you play on a regular basis and enter tourneys on the ladders then there should be no problem. If you capture the # 1 spot just playing in tourneys on a ladder that is active with laddergames i think you should make more effort to be there for tourneys until you are beaten if you dont intend to offer laddergames in the room in which the ladder plays. If you want a shot at #1 usually all you have to do is ask for a ladderset or enter tourneys the # 1 player is in. Most players will be happy to play you. If you get turned down for a set then go to your ladders website and click the rules link. There you will find out the steps to take. You can also contact the league admins for help. Hope that helped cya at the tables
Sunday, December 16, 2007
Steal up and Down / more
At hoyle yesterday morning in soc room 1 i was looking at some of the player profiles and saw this quote.... There aint no cure for fat bitch!!!! rotflmao that player sure hit the nail on the head. I can think of a couple of people that sure fit the bill for that little quote ;-) Ran across at least 1 yesterday.
I hope Mark gets steal up and running again today. The graphics may not be hoyle quality but i miss the new dictionary. If it doesnt come up i will look to ladder at hoyle today. Cya at the tables
Wednesday, December 12, 2007
OxWorld
Lets take a look at the leagues and ladders i play on. First oput of the gate is http://www.myleague.com/wordsteal/ which i created am the head admin for and play at the site www.myleague.com/wordsteal in the ladder roo0m when its up. Our current #1 is me and we have a very active group for the most part. Right now our site is down so some of us are meeting at hoyle.
At hoyle we play in the comp room which is owned by one of my favorite leagues http://www.myleague.com/_synergy/ Some of the best players in the world have and do play in the synergy league, the current #1 is DorcasA and many thanks to her and the synergy team for allowing us to play there. Synergy usually has a couple of nightowl tourneys daily and you can find laddergames there too.
The next place i play at is a cases ladder http://www.igl.net/fswordox/ which runs in the cases ladder room at hoyle. The current # 1 there is me ;-). They host a lot of variety style tourneys and they usually run in the afternoons est time.
Moving on another league im on is http://www.myleague.com/extremeox/ runs in soc room 2 at hoyle . They usually have tourneys at 8 9 and 10 pm est with impromtu tourns here and there . The current #1 is the always tough DrKate and you can usually find laddergames there too.
Ok last but not least is http://www.myleague.com/interleague/ hosted in various rooms at hoyle its a partnership between several leagues. The head admin is themummykins and the current #1 is me again and you can find tourneys with them every saturday.
Ok thats the rundown on where i play if anyone has any questions or comments email me or post them here cya at the tables!
Monday, December 10, 2007
Wordmans Post
From Wordman
I'll let everyone know what happened in EXOX the other night that resulted in my being put in the penalty box for 90 days. I was playing Duncsmama in a tourney and she got booted twice during our game. I mistakenly thought that two boots are all a player gets before they have to forfeit (which I said to Roseva) so I left the table. Roseva, who was the TD informed me that a player gets three boots and told me I shouldn't have left the table so soon. O.K. My bad. She could have told me I lost the game since I left table prematurely. But she didn't. All she said was for me to replay the game against Duncsmama. I went to the table and reset, assuming that Duncs would come replay the game. When Duncs got back into the room Roseva said to please replay the game. Duncs announced that she was having computer problems, had booted twice and would probably get booted again so it was ok. Still at the table waiting for her, I said, "Come on, we can still play." Duncs said "I already reported the loss, Wordman." End of story. Or so I thought. Two days later I tried to register for another EXOX tourney and saw a message that I'd been put in the penalty box for 90 days for unsportsmanlike conduct. I thought it was a joke. Apparently it wasn't. Duncsmama sent me an e-mail
saying that I should have waited for her to get back-- that everyone has ten minutes to return after being booted and I didn't wait ten minutes. That's true, I didn't wait ten minutes for her to get back cuz she'd booted twice and I THOUGHT that's all a player gets. So, it wasn't so much a time infraction as it was a boot rule infraction. So why didn't Roseva just award the win to Duncs? Instead Roseva asked me to REPLAY THE GAME, which I attempted to do, but Duncs reported the loss so fast there was no chance of a replay. And then Roseva said "Congratulations on winning the tournament, Wordman." Two days later, having received no notification that I was going to be put in the penalty box and no opportunity to defend my actions or offer an explanation, I saw that I was boxed for 90 DAYS. Duncsmama and Roseva claimed that I "tried to make my own rules." Like I said, all Roseva had to do was tell me I forfeited the game because I left table too soon. But she told me to replay the game. So I didn't realize what I did was such a major crime. I was told later that Duncs stayed out of it left it up to Roseva and Roguish to decide what my "punishment" should be. First of all, Duncs is head administrator of EXOX. Shouldn't she have a major say in issues like this? Especially since she was the one playing me at the time. Instead, she "stayed out of it" and let Roseva and Roguish determine my penalty. And Roguish wasn't even in the room at the time, so why should he have any more say about it than Duncs? Below is a verbatim e-mail that Roseva sent to me. Read it and keep in mind that she's an administrator of a word game league:
FIRST OF ALL RICHARD I'M THE ONE WHO BOXED YOU. DUNCAN LEFTED THE DECISION UP TO ME AND ROG.
YOU WERE BOXED FOR YOUR ACTIONS ON TUESDAY NITE, I ASK YOU TO SET TIME AT :40. YOU ASKED ABOUT THE 2 BOOT RULE, I TOLD YOU RULE WAS 3 BOOTS, YOU SAID 2 AND LEFTED THE TABLE. I SAID THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
YOU WERE TOTALY DISRESPECTFUL OF ME AS A TD, THE RULES STATE 3 BOOTS, AND IT ALSO TD HAS FINAL SAY IN ALL MATTERS.
I WOULD HAVE BOXED ANY PLAYER THAT ACTED THE WAY YOU DID.
Even if I were "disrespectful" to Roseva (which I don't think I was). . . she just took the situation too personally. I admit I made a mistake and left the table too soon. So that deserves 90 DAYS in the penalty box? Besides, Roseva did ask me to replay the game, which I was ready and willing to do. But Duncs went ahead and reported the loss and declined to replay, which was HER CHOICE. 90 days seems like overkill, especially when I've seen other players act much more rudely to TD's for which they got no penalty at all.
As for the cowardly little assholes who like to make derogatory comments but don't have the decency or the courage to sign their names, you're missing the point. Just like the idiot who said to Perrin, "you think you and wordman are immune to the rules." No, I don't think I'm immune to the rules. I just think that in this case the punishment doesn't fit the 'crime.' One week in the box or even two is understandable. But 90 DAYS? As for you scum who sign your posts 'anonymous' you're so pathetic -- why risk making yourself known when you can keep hiding behind anonymity, right?
To the wordox community from duncansmama
Just after Exox banned Shadow, I personally apologized to Shadow for the way we handled things. I did fret over how to make things right and I never came up with a good solution. I guess I had hoped things would just get better with time. I see now that I should have offered up a very PUBLIC apology and made it very clear that Shadow was more than welcome to join Exox and I should have done it immediately. I'm sorry I did not and all I can do to rectify that now is to say it now. Shadow, please except my humblest apology for the injustice that Exox did to you. Please know that you are more than welcome to play in Exox
Well Said Duncs!!
Sunday, December 09, 2007
The Balls Bomb
An anonymous post
If people will tell the truth Wordman is a major pain to the tds when they are trying to host he constantly pms them trying to tell them how to do their job which if he knows so much why isnt he a td? When he isnt trying to tell them thjeir job he has something bad to say about everyone and he will pm anyone and everyone to tell them . he deserves what he got. To bad they didnt ban him.
From Duncs
Ok now for her post
I am writing in response to all the blogs and what happened to Wordman. . This matter is over with and the boxing stands. He broke the rules and basically was unapologetic about it. The penalty stands. No one is above the rules of Cases or Extreme.
I stand by my administrators and tourney directors.
I appreciate the fact that Jeff let me post this.
Shirley(Duncansmama)
HA extremeox
From Bluberry
From Bluberry
I'm not going to get bogged down in details arguing with you about this last issue with Wordman, Jeff. I've already said how I feel. What I do want to address is your remark about seeing players hounded out of the league. First of all the deal was Shadow was a huge mistake and the current HA still grieves over that. That mistake was made because of someone's (guess who!) pm's accusing Shad of being a cheat. Duncs was new to her position, shouldn't have listened to the trouble causer and regrets the whole mess and the way it came down. She will not make that mistake again. She would do anything to take it back. I know this for a fact. Second, Mini's trouble was not with the current administration. It was with Ayla and it started when you gave Ayla the league instead of giving it to Mini. There was no appeasing Mini and I know because she got pissed off at me and nothing I tried could make things better.
For you to say you feel ashamed that a league you created boots and boxes... etc. Let me remind you that you bailed when this league was dying. Ayla brought it back to life by working her butt off. She didn't get along with everyone, but do you, Jeff? Do I? Does anyone? When Ayla could no longer put the time and energy to EXOX because of a series of personal catastrophes, Duncs stepped in and took over a job she really had no intention of keeping. In my opinion, she has done a great job. There is no petty arguing in EXOX. We treat each other with respect.
Now I'm going to go out on a limb and really piss some people off. It seems to me that Wordman and Mini aren't happy unless they are unhappy. They manage to make waves everywhere they go. Anyone who has been around any length of time or paid any attention, you included, knows that. Doesn't mean we don't like them. Doesn't mean we don't want them around. Just means some of us have their number.
Sorry to all who have taken offense to what I say here, but like Jeff, this is my opinion and he has been gracious enough to let me post it. So thanks, Jeff, and Happy New Year too.
The only thing i have to say is in my own defense. When i gave Ayla the league it was doing well. It was mired in controversy but it was still gaining members and hosting tourneys. I gave Ayla the league because of personal issues with my family and work that have since been resolved. I also gave it to her with the understanding that if she wanted to quit she would pass it back to me. I know what happened there no matter what she wants to say. But thats water under the bridge. The only reason i posted anything at all about this situation is because i am a member of extremeox still, until im booted or i leave, and im concerned about the fairness of 90 days for a first offense and no hearing or anything. Right or wrong to be concerned ? Maybe but i still am concerned. I have sent players to extreme from my league and i would hate to see the same thing happen to one of them.
Happy Holidays to you too Blu!!
Comment
Whether you like or dislike Richard and whether or not he plays at Exox much my opinion is that he should have been given a hearing and the chance to apologize. As i have said before i know my opinion carries absolutely no weight with the current exox administration but give it i will. I have seen players hounded out of that league since i left as admin and altho i have no say in how its run i do feel ashamed that a league i created (cant change that fact no matter what!!!) boots and boxes players without giving them a chance to apologize or get a hearing. If anyone wants to know what i mean ask Shadow or MiniFrump , they can damn sure clue you in.
Now in conclusion , if the wiews expressed here offend anyone GOOD!! If you agree with them GOOD!!! You are all welcome to speak out in the comments section or you can email me if you want a front page post. I think all the players should have a voice , here is your chance.
Saturday, December 08, 2007
Wordman
Friday, December 07, 2007
Wordsteal League at Synergy
Thursday, December 06, 2007
Wordsteal
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: 6 December - update
Mark's former ISP informed him it would take 2-4 weeks to get him reconnected, which is not acceptable to Mark. He is "looking at other options" now, he says. "The site will be working again as soon as I have a working Internet connection for the server." When that will be is unknown at this moment. As soon as we have further word, it will be posted here. So check back, or just try opening the site, http://wordsteal.com. It will come up as soon as it's reconnected. In the meantime, post your most effective "surviving without Wordsteal" solutions on the bulletin board in the Cafe. Thanks. heres the link to forum http://wordsteal.mymesis.com/forum/
Wednesday, December 05, 2007
Comments
Ohhhhhhhhhh my, do I have a few things to say!!!!!!!!!!
First off!
Shep cant stand to lose! let alone play a GOOD GAME!!!!! Duh, Azz its a game! Play it or lose it! Shep has always been a poor loser! Always trying to find a loop hole... or a hole to bury his bone at!!! You'd be better at the "BURY ASPECT" the the play to try and find the Loopholes!!!!!!!
Shep, you got me kicked from FSW for what?? Your TACTICS!!!!!! I was a Extremely active TD.... I take GREAT PRIDE in what I did! to have your mouth push me from something I adored! (and you obviosly couldnt do as a TD! cause you NEVER Td!) and ya know what ... I was boxed longer then your puppy licking ass! cause I was a TD!!(as you once where) talk of unfair!!!!!! All because one night I called you off a TD, the next to tell you off in lobby!! Your right I did... I wont say anything different! Because I am who I am! and I'll stand for it! And you know what.. Im not the only one who feels this way..I recived several emails asking me not to leave).I havent and I will not go back to FSW!!!!!! because.... I stand for what I believe! I will not call you a cheat!~ I will not call you anything but a Loophole Freak!!!!!"Give you a hole... You'll dive into it! Just what you deserve!!!!! Are you a TERRIER????????? hm you must be!!!!!
In case this dont post!
This is KissthisAss!!! akak Kissy65
Monday, December 03, 2007
Old Shep (Taking dont like me bite me to new heights)
Private from Diamond-Di: PERRIN AND SHEP... YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWN TOGETHER AGAIN AS YOU HAVE 2 WINS EACH...OK
Private to Diamond-Di: ok di
Private from Diamond-Di: TY
ok now im cutting out the lobby chatter here is where shep gets in to his act...
OldShep56: I have played Perrin already?????????
perrin: she said we have 2 wins each
OldShep56: it diesn't matter
OldShep56: *doesn't OldShep56: and I had put a brb in, Di
OldShep56: I never saw your pm
Private to Diamond-Di: is he conceding?
Diamond-Di: OK..WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN PERRIN
OldShep56: nope
Diamond-Di: OK FINE... PERRIN WILL TAKE THE WIN
OldShep56: thats a dupe and no way shouldthere be one
OldShep56: and I shall report you
perrin: ty Di for hosting xxx
OldShep56: you're too idle to sort the blue out?
OldShep56: with this many players in, there should NOT be any dupes
OldShep56: so what??? you think thats never happened before?
JoeyTribiani: give it up shep
OldShep56: you give Perrin the win and I will report youJoeyTribiani: tis only a *game* after all
JoeyTribiani: not life or death
OldShep56: Perrin, this is nothing against you. please realise that
perrin: sure whatever
OldShep56: Joey, don't innterefere please
JoeyTribiani: sorry will stay clear
perrin: if it wasnt u would play instead of acting the ass
OldShep56: you're a TD, perrin.. you know what I am on about.. same as I was a TD and know there is no way this should be happening
Anyway you get the picture , he went on and on , i dont feel like cutting more of it out to show here but i told Di to give him the win if it would save her any trouble. Which she did just to shut his miserable old fleabitten ass up. Like that worked for more than 2 minutes lol
All that he managed to do was ensure that i will be back over there every time i look at their schedule and see him in a tourney. Ordinarily i wouldnt bother but Shep isnt ordinary, he is a bullying asshole over there and nothing is more fun than whuppin the schoolyard bully. Even if it is just a game.... I think FSW has been too insulated for too long and they could use a dose of a new arrogant asshole like me instead of the stale lame dickweed that is OldShep so ;-)
wtf is goin on?
Sunday, December 02, 2007
Blst From the Past & The Scrabble Song
A couple of you tube video links here , instead of uploading them u can just click the links here is hip hop scrabble http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6C5mhsFi_w
And here is scrabble take that Grandma!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJSyP--IhU
Funny stuff lol
I had a blast at interleague and synergy last night . Sneaky put out email on how to get in at hoyle and Oxtail made it over , there were some good turnouts with 14 or so players per tourney. IrishLass was over in Soc 1 raising hell too lol. A good time was had by most.
Thanks Holly Melisca And Barb for the fun Tourns.
Cya all at the tables i hope tc
Saturday, December 01, 2007
Game Etiquette & Sportsmanship
Today i played at FSWordox . In a game vs JoeyTribiani aka / Chris Aka Conjunction the format was corner clears only. He thought that meant we could only clear in our own corner so when i cleared in the top beside him and the td told him the rule was any corner he got mad , left the game before it was over and started bitching at the td. When you check the little box that says you understand the rules and then fail to clarify things with the td before you start its your fault there , dumb-ass.
Now in another situation we had Joey again and he was playing OldShep who is an asshole to begin with but thats beside the point . They had issues and had to restart and when Joey kicked Sheps pathetic old ass Shep reported to td in lobby Shitforbrains/OldShep. The td actually laughed about it and i doubt he was called down about it. Like Joey or not that was rude so i congratulated Joey in lobby by saying wtg Joey on beating OldShit. Yeah i can be a rude mfer too. Shep if we ever by some obscure chance of fate meet up please remind me to thump you in your fat head , you rude old shitheel.
Now i pretty much say what i want here but i guarantee ya this much , unless i hate your miserable guts and dont talk to you at all you will get the courtesy of a gl and gg from me in the game. And if you dont return it screw you!!
Now that i have had my rant im gonna go play ;-)
Steal Down :-(
cya at the tables ;-)
Friday, November 30, 2007
Steal Down
For updates go here http://wordsteal.mymesis.com/forum/
For those who want to try hoyle and cant get in i recommend these fixes
http://hoylegames.sierra.com/faq.jsp
Need any further info gimme a shout, i will be at hoyle leagues extremeox ,synergy, or interleague while Steal is down or message perrin1967@yahoo.com on yahoo or msn messenger or email me.
Cya at the tables ;-)
Sunday, November 25, 2007
This Week
Cya at the tables p.s. Stop watching my effin games!!!!!!!
Sunday, November 18, 2007
Stuff
Its good to see players that arent as highly rated as others improving their game and getting some good wins. Debbers (bambiella's mom) recently picked up her first 2 wins in the league and Pam got a victory on Dorcas today. Pam caught me for a win a few weeks ago also, so it just goes to show that working hard on your game does pay off.
For those who messaged me about my comment on top ten activity.... never be afraid to ask for a laddergame or a set. Most players will be glad to hook you up and the games will improve you.
Thats it for the moment cya ;-)
Friday, November 16, 2007
League & Stuff
OK the top ten for this post coming in at #10 new player& new td is TheBeauty. At # 9 is ShadowyJunior, at # 8 is Red_Dawn at 7 is Redberry and #6 is Oxtailsoup. Coming in at #5 bronzelonna # 4 is Sneaks # 3 wordman #2 is Natssss and I have the #1 title for the moment.
Several players are very happy about the increased activity in the top ten and laddergames between top tenners , Thanks for the feedback keep it coming.
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As oxtail put the term , i have been trying to crosstrain a bit and play some weirdox. It was ok but i still would rather do regular old s rule pinks ok.
thats it for today cya at the tables
Sunday, November 04, 2007
Scrabble Asshole
This Week
Ok on to the ladder. Everything continues to go well for us mostly due to the fact that i have a kick ass staff running things. A few of our tds have been out of action lately due to things personal or work related etc and we miss them. They know who they are and we hope to see you guys back soon.
The top ten this week has Just_Fancy coming in at # 10 with TheMummykins at #9. #8 is Wordman50 with isitheshoes at # 7 and # 6 is StunnedMullet. rounding out the top 5 is SneakyPete then Shadowy_Niddyz at #4 with me at #3 OxtailSoup at #2 and Natssss on top at #1 . A reminder to top ten players, if you are inactive for 2 days you will lose rank for inactivity .
Thats it for the moment cya at the next tourney or send me a yahoo message if u want to ladder.
Friday, November 02, 2007
Weird Rules
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Rated @ Steal
Monday, October 22, 2007
Moving On
It seems that the infamous Redfan73 is back in action and has joined the league. Old Red doesnt like the fast paced games and wishes it was back to the days of 45/45/s . Red, the reason our players like 20-30 sec games is because it makes you think fast and discourages cheating. Good luck learning to play at speed.
MysticStar , our graphics admin has created a Yahoo wordsteal group for the league. Here is the link for that http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wordsteal/ Thanks Star and a belated Happy Birthday to ya too(((((((Star))))))))
On to league stuff . Laddergames are slowly picking up. I am home most afternoons (except wednesdays) and will play anyone a set. If im not in the room drop me an IM or an email to perrin1967@yahoo.com . If im not available right that second i will get back to you and set a time. Laddergames are the heart and soul of a great league and i hope as we get bigger more people will come in for them. The ladder room uses the same dictionary that is in place in rated also.
I will post on the top 10 and other junk later... im tired Cya at the tables ;-)
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Keeping up
Anyhoo lets take a look at the state of the ladder first , in the past week we have done around 300 matches rough guess maybe a bit more. The Top 10 as of today, coming in at #10 is Shadowy_Niddyz , Just ahead of him at #9 is Spot60(sprot) #8 it is isittheshoes #7 is the feisty IrishLass ....sneaking in at #6 she is sneakypete68 at #5 is Natssssssssssssssssssssssss and her sister jumped her to # 4 thats Redberry coming in at # 3 is Oxtailsoup with me at #2 and on top of the heap is Wordman50. People are getting in some laddergames as they get used to the idea of a league at Wordsteal and we may see activity pick up there as we start enforcing the rules on top players and playing for rank. Thats an item for discussion at the TD meeting.
Good news for me is that finally the sticks/boogerwoods area i live in has DSL available, which i have ordered and it will be active the end of the month! Freakin Finally!!
My Partner , The Spicy One , HollyPeenyo had a good post on her blog about Hoyle and the fact that players just are not going there anymore. To check that out see my links section. I loved Hoyle but i have just as much fun at Steal without my antivirus/antispyware program causing trouble when i go in. I hope some of the Hoylers will come kick it old school style at Steal and try the league
cya at the tables ;-)
Friday, October 05, 2007
Wordsteal support and more
As for the league itself lets take a look , top ten , The current champ is Wordman50 followed by Oxtailsoup at 2 me (kes) at #3 the kid Shadowy_Niddyz otherwise known as Junior comes in at #4 at # 5 its the Werewolf of London BigBad Wolfy, coming in at # 6 is Redberry , a big Welcome back to her we missed her! #7 is the shoeman isittheshoes , # 8 is Bambiella # 9 is theMummykins (send her your plump kids) and rounding out the top ten is PamelaKay aka JustFancy. We have put in more than 500 matches since last friday and i also want to thank MysticStar for coming in to handle the graphics admin for the league, she is a kickass graphic artist and we are lucky to have her.
Finally we have tourneys all weekend and should have a bunch of great players in and they will all be lookin to whup some ass.
Cya at the tables ;-)
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Saturday Stuff
Reading list, i just read a Frank Sinatra bio, i never realized how deep into the mob that guy was. Also read 100 years 100 stories by George Burns, Book 1 of The Dark Tower series by Stephen King. Also finished a book called The Boys of Summer by Roger Kahn about the Brooklyn Dodgers of the 1950's. All very good reads , i hope some of you get the chance to read any of them.Next on the list I am about to start a Terry Brooks fantasy series and a book called Overload by Arthur Hailey.
Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Tuesday, September 18, 2007
The League , Wordsteal and Rescue Me
Now Rescue Me.... the show wasnt as good to me this season , sure it had its fuuny points like when Lou tried to fight his cousin after he caught him screwing his (Lou's) ex-nun girlfriend but they really watered down the Tommy Gavin character i thought. He babbled way too much when confronted as was way too much of a puss. I hope Leary writes Tommy some balls back in to the character next season.
Thats it for now cya ;-)
Sunday, September 02, 2007
Just another Poser
For the readers that are now wondering what the hell im talking about sit back and read on, i will clue you in. Paul/Gunsnroses/Paradicecity/50 other jerkass names set a table and asked for nonwimps to play. Being the nonwimp that i am i joined his table. Being the jabroni he is he left watchers open. 2 or 3 players decided to watch and when i made a couple of steals they said wd or vn. He started crying about fanclubs etc (i noticed that he watches any number of games) and went on to lose the game and then he continued his little rant in the lobby. I told him i would gladly play with watchers closed at any time then left to host a tourney. After i left he decided to make nasty comments about league players and me etc. I know this because players sent me screenshots. Thanks Yall :-)
Anyway , since this is the internet i cant very well go punch him in the nose, lucky for him. I already beat him in the game no matter what his lame ass excuses are ( i keep watchers closed so i dont have that convenient excuse when i lose) but i would be glad to whip his ass again in the game or in a tourney if i thought it would shut him up.
I know he is a good player but his posturing and grandstanding in the lobby hasnt impressed anyone that i have talked to yet. He is just another poser !!
Im Back
Friday, August 03, 2007
Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Mixed Martial Arts

Trivia
Friday, July 27, 2007
Wordsteal Withdrawal
Tuesday, July 24, 2007
Wordsteal down
http://hoylegames.sierra.com/index.jsp if you have trouble getting in go to the help tab. Cya at the tables ;-)
Thursday, July 19, 2007
JustFancy
Name Pammie of course :)
Age 53
Sex Female
Location North Carolina
occupation Disabled
hobbies / interests Enjoys wordox of course ,meeting new people...crosstiching.......and enjoys whooping perrin once in a blue moon......LOL
Favorite options/Tourney format Favorite game is no pinks
comments ....Always try and do your best and remember that....True friends are like rare gems.....treasure them for they are priceless.
Friday, July 13, 2007
Ricketytick
Age 42
Sex male
Location South Western, Kentucky area
First name Rick
occupation state government
hobbies / interests water parks wordox playing online with friends anything that involves outdoors oh yes going on KY or Barkley Lakes Pets Sumo, Lady Bell Gracie
Children none
Marital status none
How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal? wordox in general well lol 10 years lol , wordsteal about a few months
Favorite options/Tourney format reg ox pinks
comments i sure hope that this league thrives they have a great adm.. and following
GreaseGravy
Age 36
Sex FEMALE
Location INDIANA
First name (optional) LISA
occupation MOTHER OF 4 BOOKKEEPER FOR HUBBY LOGGING BUSINESS
hobbies / interests SEX, GARDENING, CASINO, COOKING, HORSEBACK RIDING, Pets 2 dogs, 2 cats, chickens, 2 cows, 3 horses, and a hubby lol
Children 2 girls and 2 boys, ages 14, 13, 7, and 3
Marital status married for 16 years
How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal? 4 years now but off and on first few years started fully playing maybe a year ago
Favorite options/Tourney format peach grove 45/45
Shiloh
Age 21 or maybe 40
Sex female
Location South Yorkshire
First name Mandy, Amanda on a sunday when i get in trouble.
occupation Learning Mentor>
hobbies / interests Walking, reading, tormenting Phil,in fact tormenting >anyone.>>
Pets Dog,Cat,Rat>
Children No my childrens are not pets.>
>Marital status Very much so, 22 years>
>How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal? approx 10 years>
Favorite options/Tourney format peach grove no s>
comments Player names AmandaMouse, Tangible,Project
Thursday, July 12, 2007
Minifrump
Age : Ing!
Sex : About 3 times a day!
Location : Anywhere thats comfy!
First name Trish!
Occupation: Pole dancer!
Hobbies / interests: Men and more MEN! My favourite is Russel tho! Pets: I got 3 haggis, also another few on the way, and 1 sheep.
Children: 3 Daughters!
Marital status: Whats that?
How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal?: Too friggin long!
Favorite options/Tourney format: 240/240 NO PINK!
Comments: I dont think you want to know lol!
Redberry
Age 36
Sex.... female
Location....SURREY ENGLAND
First name (optional)....THERESA (TERRI)
occupationHOUSEMOTHER
hobbies / interests... WORDSTEAL,READING,WALKING,MUSIC Pets.....2 DOGS A BRAINDEAD LURCHER CALLED ALFIE & T-BAG THE JACK RUSSELL
Children...... 5 ....2 BOYS 3 GIRLS
Marital status..... SINGLE
How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal?.....2 LONG ABOUT 7 YEARS
Favorite options/Tourney format..... SWISS DONT MIND
Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Profile/Dreamluver
Dreamluver
Age 42 Sex Female !
Location Wales UK
First name (optional) Karen
Occupation Admin of wordsteal league. ( disabled)
hobbies / interests computer, meeting new ppl, cross stitch, reading, going to cinema, socialising,
Pets 1 puppy 6 months old Trixie ( cavalier king Charles spaniel)
2 moggy cats 8 yrs old ... Chico N Sooty.
1 hamster - nibbles
Tank of fish - won't list names lol .
Children 1 daughter Kirsty 15yrs stepdaughter Emma 15yrs Marital status Married
How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal? Was a old wordox player,and then joined new one so I would say around 7yrs now.
Favorite options/Tourney format Any really just get involved in which ever comes along.
Comments I am happy to be working with this league as Admin and look forward to meeting a lot more members as we go on.
Little about myself.
I have been disabled for 20yrs now having had 7 spinal operations, and leg surgery for joint pain.I have a spinal disease in my lower spine.
End of 2007 I am to undergo more surgery, I try never to let my disability stand in my way of life.
Karen Dreamluver
Player Profile/ SneakyPete
Age 39
Sex F
Location Oklahoma
First name Loretta aka Sneakypete61, MoBetta, SneakyBlitzenPete ;-)
occupation: mommy of 3 - 1 Boy/ 22 2Girls: 8 & 9 gram ma-1 boy =15mo.
hobbies / interests: The Internet at the moment. I fascinated me that you can go anywhere in the world you want in a matter of seconds..So that, and Wordsteal are my current obsessions. my graphics program PSP & building Web sites.Camping, Bar B ques with friends and family.
Pets 1 Dog-Comet
Children: See Occupation :-)
Marital status: M
How long have you been playing wordox/wordsteal?
Off and on for 10 years. I started playing when wordox was on won.net..Played for about 1 year there; years 2-8 i played rarely when i could remember who had this version...and Hoyle but didn't go there to much either maybe 2-3 times a year...then i decided to type it in google one day about a year ago and found wordsteal- And viola` her i am one year later-still addicted!
Favorite options/Tourney format No S No P/ 30/35...Crossox, Borderline, Some partners, Not real fond of clears but if I'm going to play them i like 20 sec/50points/No rules or 20/20/no rules.
Comment about anything?......I think you got a good thing growing Kes. :-) Thanks for the invite. Anyone thinking of joining a league this ones a great one. Lots of nice, fun, friendly people.
Monday, July 09, 2007
League stats
Wow The Big 40
Thursday, July 05, 2007
More on league
Wednesday, July 04, 2007
Another good day
Tuesday, July 03, 2007
League News
Saturday, June 30, 2007
Guest shots
Wednesday, June 27, 2007
"I've asked a few people if they would like to join me for a game but they decline because they say I "scare" them. If they don't feel comfortable playing me for whatever reason, then that is their right. I don't ridicule or call them names in the lobby or write bad things about them in a blog. "
Well CutiePi or whichever name you are using today I am so very proud of you for not ridiculing people. I wish i could rise to your level but it just makes me sick to see players with high ratings that reject comparable players wanting a game then play someone rated 500 points below them just to get 1 more ratings point on their tally. Gee who the hell does that at wordsteal???? I will continue to write ridicule call names or do whatever i can if it shames even one player into taking on quality opponents.
Tuesday, June 26, 2007
Why i bitch about the game, The league etc
Monday, June 25, 2007
The New League
Sunday, June 24, 2007
The New League
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Important Announcement
Thursday, June 21, 2007
Hoyle at Wordsteal
Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Posers at Wordsteal
Sunday, June 17, 2007
Extreme
The leagues are in terrible shape attendance wise from what i saw in the standings today. Maybe people will come in out of the heat and start playing more often. I plan on trying to get the word out to some of the wordsteal players that there are tourneys to play in at hoyle, who knows maybe even a few of the posers over there will come out.
Shine up them #1 rank belts , im coming for them!
Return to Hoyle
Saturday, June 16, 2007
Bored
Thursday, June 14, 2007
Rescue Me
Sunday, June 10, 2007
A Day in Kentucky
Wednesday, June 06, 2007
Stackers
Sunday, June 03, 2007
I Get It
Saturday, June 02, 2007
Idiots
Saturday, May 26, 2007
UFC 71 & more
I find it funnier than hell that some people want to play me, others want to parade their rating in the lobby, and ringers .... oh boy they come after me quick. As soon as one gets a new name bam!! As for the paraders, gimme a fucking break, win or lose you dont impress me, if you even have the guts to play. Get off your ass and bring it on. Thanks to those players that day in and day out bring their best shot and actually compete instead of playing anagrams and showing off their rating in the lobby. Good Day.
Hoyle
Monday, May 21, 2007
Wordsteal Ratings etc
I also hear there is a new league at wordsteal , why do they need a league? They are already rated and there are plenty of places online to get brackets to set up tourneys. None of my business i guess but i can write whatever i want here :-)
Ok thats it for the moment ... hope to see some of ya at www.wordsteal.com look for me as kes or perrin!
Saturday, May 12, 2007
A Wordsteal Blog
Monday, April 30, 2007
Playing at Hoyle
People were asking where i have been.... the fish have been biting and i took CJ fishing a number of times, been swimming and working on a tan, playing softball and basketball etc.
Reading list The Murder of Tutankhamen by Bob Brier and The Good Old Days- They Were terrible by Otto Bettmann. Cya.
Sunday, April 29, 2007
WordSteal
Another good thing about wordsteal is you can now control watchers and there are no sound distractions. The limited graphics may run better on some older pc's as well. For no pinkers it adds a bar on the pink to remind ya not to play the pink and there is a version of the s rule in place now.
Now that i have talked about the good lets deal with the bad and ugly of wordsteal. If you are a crossover from hoyle and have any ability at all the established top rated players are suspicious of ya and several in that group have a fear of "ringers",which are top rated players that went and registered a new name. The reason that pisses these toprates off is because if you are using a new name with a 1600 rating and beat a 2100 rated player it takes a big chunk of their hard earned rating points while the 1600 rated player doesnt take any rating hit for a loss. Yes i know that shouldnt matter much but to many it does.
I miss playing in tourneys but getting a game in when i can means alot and wordsteal offers that option so if ya want to play some truly badass players that dont do hoyle i promise you can find them at wordsteal.
Cya ;-)
Saturday, April 21, 2007
U.F.C.
Weight classes: Lightweight - over 145 lbs. to 155 lbs. Welterweight - over 155 lbs. to 170 lbs. Middleweight - over 170 lbs. to 185 lbs. Light Heavyweight - over 185 lbs. to 205 lbs. Heavyweight - over 205 lbs. to 265 lbs.
Bout duration: All non-championship bouts shall be three rounds. All championship bouts shall be five rounds. Rounds will be five minutes in duration. A one-minute rest period will occur between each round.
Fouls: 1. Butting with the head. 2. Eye gouging of any kind. 3. Biting. 4. Hair pulling. 5. Fish hooking. 6. Groin attacks of any kind. 7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. 8. Small joint manipulation. 9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head. 10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow. 11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea. 12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh. 13. Grabbing the clavicle. 14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent. 15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent. 16. Stomping a grounded opponent. 17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel. 18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. 19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area. 20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent. 21. Spitting at an opponent. 22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent. 23. Holding the ropes or the fence. 24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area. 25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break. 26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee. 27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat. 28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee. 29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury. 30. Interference by the corner. 31. Throwing in the towel during competition.
Ways To Win: 1. Submission by: Physical tap out. Verbal tap out. 2. Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest. 3. Decision via the scorecards, including: Unanimous decision. Split decision. Majority decision. Draw, including: Unanimous draw. Majority draw. Split draw. 4. Technical decision. 5. Technical draw. 6. Disqualification. 7. Forfeit. 8. No contest.
Referee may Restart the round: If the fighters reach a stalemate and do not work to improve position or finish.
Ok now that ya got the rules i will be writing more laterand if ya dont like the fights just ignore the posts.........cya
Saturday, April 14, 2007
"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated"
I dropped in on the interleague room today just in time to see Ceedie forfeit a match against Wordman. Refusing to play a cheater is one thing but passing up a chance to play against a world class player because you dont like that player is ignorant. That is as bad as the player who declined to play me because i "scare" them.... yes that actually happened to me a few weeks ago. I scare you? wtf kinda of garbage is that? Ox isnt a boxing ring where you strap on the gloves and get the crap beat out of ya. Its not a cage match , get real. Wussy.
Reading list.
I am working on reading The Belgariad by David Eddings, just finished "A Feast For Crows " by George R R Martin, and read a few more John Grisham books. I also read a few books by Larry McMurtry (Lonesome Dove) and i have a couple of Tom Clancy novels to read.
Thats it for now maybe i will see some of ya soon ;-)
Saturday, March 17, 2007
For Wordsteal Players
The latest word is it will be Monday before the site is back. Sigh. (Mark's ISP needs to make some setting change on their system to accomodate a hardware change that Mark made.) We are all sorry for the downtime, and hope it's back running early Monday. Fingers crossed....Phil
There ya go
Thursday, March 15, 2007
Wordox at a glance
Public MyLeague operated by mummykins_oxfest (42 players)
Description: The newest concept in wordox...a shared interleague room.
extremeox (VU Games)
Public MyLeague operated by Aylalei (39 players)
Description: We take OX to eXtremes. You have just found the THE league. Soc RM 2
OxFest (VU Games)
Public MyLeague operated by OxfestHA (28 players)
Description: A Wordox League Where People Come First
Wordox In Accord
Public MyLeague operated by CristyAnn (16 players)
Description: Small Friendly and Honest A great Group Of People Having FUN No Drama
Synergy
Public MyLeague operated by SynergyTeam (43 players)
Description: For a high level of competition and camaraderie - play Wordox with Synergy.
Wordox United
Public MyLeague operated by Rosebud948 (24 players)
Description: WordoxUnited The Best People For The Best Fun. That is what makes Us Number 1!
Wednesday, March 14, 2007
The Death of Wordox??
With Spring here and Summer around the corner participation in tourneys will continue to fail as always happens this time of year. I , for 1 , will not be on as much because i have many plans for my free time this summer.
Another problem is that many antivirus programs and spyware removers think that the WonWebLauncher is a spybot and people have trouble getting in to Hoyle because of that.
Maybe one day the new owners of Hoyle will correct that problem, who knows? But until then i hope everyone can find time at least once a in awhile to join a tourney or blast a yahoo message out asking for laddergames. I will have more to say on this whole subject later about turning things around for people interested in trying.
Cyas at the tables ;-)
Friday, March 09, 2007
The Balls Bomb

On my partners blog she posed the following question ....Why is it that, in the middle of a verbal battle, someone always brings up balls?} The answer, my Spicy friend , is that no matter how big the set of grapefruits a guy has the "balls" are the most vulnerable point of attack an oppenent can strike out at. Some women , lacking a set of testicles, do have ( except for Oliver who claims to have found a set, if Oliver really is a woman) and some men also have what i like to refer to as testicular fortitude which can also be vulnerable to attack. Thats why my first rule of battle is "Kick em in the nads if ya can" and im sure im not alone in that philosophy.
People who dare to be controversial are always subject to an attack on the balls, or lack of said testicles. When you dare to put your thoughts in print you are 99.9% guaranteed of a ball attack. And before i forget reading of a ball attack or writing about a swift kick in the nuts can also be very funny :-) People love balls and some love attacking them !! I hope what i wrote helps with the answer to your question :-)

