Before i post this let me say that no more anonymous comments will be allowed on this subject unless they are emailed to me. Duncs has made it clear that she considers the matter finished but i told Richard he would have a chance to present his side of the situation and i let her know that too. Hindsight is always 20/20 and i wish i had tried to help both Richard and Shirley as a go -between and resolve this situation peacefully but i didnt . Not that i could have helped but it would have been worth a try.Such is life and i apologize to all involved. On to Wordmans comments
From Wordman
I'll let everyone know what happened in EXOX the other night that resulted in my being put in the penalty box for 90 days. I was playing Duncsmama in a tourney and she got booted twice during our game. I mistakenly thought that two boots are all a player gets before they have to forfeit (which I said to Roseva) so I left the table. Roseva, who was the TD informed me that a player gets three boots and told me I shouldn't have left the table so soon. O.K. My bad. She could have told me I lost the game since I left table prematurely. But she didn't. All she said was for me to replay the game against Duncsmama. I went to the table and reset, assuming that Duncs would come replay the game. When Duncs got back into the room Roseva said to please replay the game. Duncs announced that she was having computer problems, had booted twice and would probably get booted again so it was ok. Still at the table waiting for her, I said, "Come on, we can still play." Duncs said "I already reported the loss, Wordman." End of story. Or so I thought. Two days later I tried to register for another EXOX tourney and saw a message that I'd been put in the penalty box for 90 days for unsportsmanlike conduct. I thought it was a joke. Apparently it wasn't. Duncsmama sent me an e-mail
saying that I should have waited for her to get back-- that everyone has ten minutes to return after being booted and I didn't wait ten minutes. That's true, I didn't wait ten minutes for her to get back cuz she'd booted twice and I THOUGHT that's all a player gets. So, it wasn't so much a time infraction as it was a boot rule infraction. So why didn't Roseva just award the win to Duncs? Instead Roseva asked me to REPLAY THE GAME, which I attempted to do, but Duncs reported the loss so fast there was no chance of a replay. And then Roseva said "Congratulations on winning the tournament, Wordman." Two days later, having received no notification that I was going to be put in the penalty box and no opportunity to defend my actions or offer an explanation, I saw that I was boxed for 90 DAYS. Duncsmama and Roseva claimed that I "tried to make my own rules." Like I said, all Roseva had to do was tell me I forfeited the game because I left table too soon. But she told me to replay the game. So I didn't realize what I did was such a major crime. I was told later that Duncs stayed out of it left it up to Roseva and Roguish to decide what my "punishment" should be. First of all, Duncs is head administrator of EXOX. Shouldn't she have a major say in issues like this? Especially since she was the one playing me at the time. Instead, she "stayed out of it" and let Roseva and Roguish determine my penalty. And Roguish wasn't even in the room at the time, so why should he have any more say about it than Duncs? Below is a verbatim e-mail that Roseva sent to me. Read it and keep in mind that she's an administrator of a word game league:
FIRST OF ALL RICHARD I'M THE ONE WHO BOXED YOU. DUNCAN LEFTED THE DECISION UP TO ME AND ROG.
YOU WERE BOXED FOR YOUR ACTIONS ON TUESDAY NITE, I ASK YOU TO SET TIME AT :40. YOU ASKED ABOUT THE 2 BOOT RULE, I TOLD YOU RULE WAS 3 BOOTS, YOU SAID 2 AND LEFTED THE TABLE. I SAID THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
YOU WERE TOTALY DISRESPECTFUL OF ME AS A TD, THE RULES STATE 3 BOOTS, AND IT ALSO TD HAS FINAL SAY IN ALL MATTERS.
I WOULD HAVE BOXED ANY PLAYER THAT ACTED THE WAY YOU DID.
Even if I were "disrespectful" to Roseva (which I don't think I was). . . she just took the situation too personally. I admit I made a mistake and left the table too soon. So that deserves 90 DAYS in the penalty box? Besides, Roseva did ask me to replay the game, which I was ready and willing to do. But Duncs went ahead and reported the loss and declined to replay, which was HER CHOICE. 90 days seems like overkill, especially when I've seen other players act much more rudely to TD's for which they got no penalty at all.
As for the cowardly little assholes who like to make derogatory comments but don't have the decency or the courage to sign their names, you're missing the point. Just like the idiot who said to Perrin, "you think you and wordman are immune to the rules." No, I don't think I'm immune to the rules. I just think that in this case the punishment doesn't fit the 'crime.' One week in the box or even two is understandable. But 90 DAYS? As for you scum who sign your posts 'anonymous' you're so pathetic -- why risk making yourself known when you can keep hiding behind anonymity, right?
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I don't see a whole lot of difference in signing a post anonymous and going behind people's back calling them cheats or whatever in PM's. I'm surprised you came out of your PM closet to post, actually.
Since we are setting the story straight, Richard. Let's tell all of the story. First of all I find it hard to believe that after all these years of playing you think that people get an automatic loss on the second boot. It's been three boots as long as I have played, as far as I know. And I did not see you mention that Duncs was ahead when you left the table. That is why when she came back and saw you had left the table she did not want to replay you. She was frustrated with getting booted already. Then to have you make sure that game went away... I wouldn't have played your sorry ass either.
I think the punishment fits the crime because the crime was so blatant.
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