This entry is about trust not about rules or other bullshit. Once again i have left Extremeox without having played a game since my return a day or two ago. I rejoined at the request of friends and a couple of the admins , applied to td again so that i might help out there on Sundays and at Interleague Saturdays once my penalty time is up. To my surprise i got an email from roguish which i shall reprint here .
Jeff,We have a 2 week rejoin rule to keep people from resetting their ladder stats. Although I know this is not the issue in your case the rule still holds. I have not formally boxed you because of Rose approving your TD request. However, I have set your status to vacation and it will remain so until next Saturday night December 9th. On vacation status you will not be allowed to play or host so this serves the purpose w/o formally boxing you. I hope you understand.RonRoguish
here was my reply to him
Ron i was asked to come back no strings attached. The reason for this being that i am the creator of extremeox and should Ayla ever step down i will resume the HA title member or not.I had second thoughts about tding and was going to ask duncs to remove me as a td so you can go ahead and do that.
Thanks
Jeff
I also sent this note to Ayla
I had reapplied to td on sundays and had second thoughts and was going to have duncs remove me. then i got this note from ron which cemented it. granted i can understand how the rule would apply to the average joe/jane but i am not the average joe , regardless of whatever happens i created the league and i dont feel this was right. (meaning that i was asked to rejoin)
Now here is her reply
Perrin,
First of all, the rules stand for everyone. eXtreme admin DID change a few rules this past week; however, the rejoin rule was not one of them.
Second of all, anyone can father a league. It's kind of like making a baby. True, you started extreme, but I've had this league for over a year, and in the UNlikely event I EVER step down as HA, it will be up to ME who gets the position, not you. Just because you created the league in the beginning doesn't give you title to a damn thing.
I DO have yahoo chat logs where you say you don't ever want extreme back, Jeff. Even if you did, it's MY choice, as HA, who I would give this league to. It will not be you.
Creating eXtreme doesn't give you exclusive rights to the rules being bent for you. You've done basically NOTHING for eXtreme in the past year. You hardly hosted, you undermined my decisions concerning minifrump, and the list goes on.
If you choose to come back to extreme or not, that's your business. You'll follow the rules the same as any other member, if you ever return.
Again, I'm telling you...if I EVER give up the HA of eXtremeOX, it will be to the person of MY choice. That would most definately be someone who gives of their time and does what's best for extremeox.
Now I'm sure I've pissed you off again, but that's life. I'm not kissing anyone's ass. eXtreme is a privately owned league, and it's owned by ME. I think I've MORE than paid my dues for the title of HA.
Sincerely,
Aylalei
And my reply to her
thats fine ayla , im not pissed off about the rule thing or anything else . Yes its owned by you solely because i put my trust in you and you were welcome to it .I was asked to rejoin, after i withdrew THEN the rules thing came up. We did have an agreement when i gave you the HA that if you ever stepped down as HA it would come back to me and you recently asked me that if anything happened to you would i take care of it and i said yes (i have that in yahoo chat ). I dont want extreme back and would have only taken it back to see it passed into capable hands. As far as your decisions on mini , they were stupid. Im not asking you to kiss my ass or anyone elses ass . In the unlikely event that you do step down and dont honor our agreement when i made the decision to pass extreme on to you all i can say is i evidently misplaced my trust .
Sincerely
Jeff
Now for a bit of ox history
When i left Wordplay i joined Synergy under my original wordox name perrin. I had always been drawn to synergy because of the level of competition there. I even played there under fake names when i was a wordplay member. When you have players the calibre of Wordman , Dorcas Nanc Kate Queenie Holly Cleopatra2u Joey Ivystung Cait , the list goes on and on and if you are an avid player like myself you want to test yourself against the best and learn from them. Even so when social 2 came open kissthis65 dared me to create a league there. I did create extremeox. A lot of people put a lot of work into the league and its a decent league. Creating that league however didnt stop me from playing at synergy and eventually after Kiss stepped down for personal reasons i decided i didnt want the headache of running a league. I passed on the HA title to Ayla on the understanding that if anything ever happened that she should quit or need to step down i would take back over until i found a replacement i thought suitable. Many many people know this and for her to write what she wrote didnt piss me off, it saddened me that i placed my trust in someone who obviously doesnt deserve it. An example is interleague, a grand idea but a broken trust as far as Wordplay was concerned.
I created Extremeox , i wish it the best, i hope it survives and flourishes. I will miss being a part of it on the 2 days a week i can actually get in games there . For true students of the game and those wishing to improve their game i named a number of players that can teach you words and strategies beyond belief. If i rejoin extremeox in 2 weeks which is the time i must wait to avoid another jail term it will only be because im a tourney hound.
Cya at the tables
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Much to my dismay... I return to OX and I hear all this?????
Oh Ayla... I can not believe you have such NERVE!!! I trully can not believe it! I with Jeff, started this league... I ran with it for LONG OVER a freaking Year! Mind you I was running a business 24 hours a day 7 days a week... while you stated at the beginning you would help but VACATED!! for a LONG period of time...
NOW you have the nerve to say since it's been yours for a year.... you can do with it as you may... ok Well yeah your right... you have the control of the button dont you? In Quotes and Ill quote you
"Even if you did, it's MY choice, as HA, who I would give this league to. It will not be you."
Hm anyone wanna wonder why?
Again I'll quote you...
"Again, I'm telling you...if I EVER give up the HA of eXtremeOX, it will be to the person of MY choice. That would most definately be someone who gives of their time and does what's best for extremeox."
Guess that doesnt matter who did what when and for what reasons???? Think about it....
Guess that wont be me neither? Cause you shoved me out like you did all the origianl TDS who started Exox... and Ran Exox and made it what it was adn I do recall leaving it with a hell of alot more members then what you have today... ... HUH?
You and your Money.... You bought all the web graphics..when I made all the pages to supposedly HELP ME OUT!!!!! Freaking BS Ayla.... you know damn well I knew what I was doing with arts and HTML and you didnt like it... You took one and only one area from me I could give back to EXOXO and I told you on the phone...
Just like youve BOUGHT your members... like the money powers huh?
I will stand as Jeff's witness... you PROMISED you'd turn the league back to Jeff if and when you become tired or stressed... JUST AS I HAD ... It is Jeffs league It always was Jeff's league!!!
Trully gal you ran away with it... you took over the reigns and ran all the excellent players EXOX had and turned it to what it is... Running out anyone who may over control or over do you...
Gee now I wonder why some of the greatest players around haven't joined you.... I need not list the names... and to think... I once thought you where a good person....
Ayla aka Theresa.... Take your League... Take it all.... its yours.... as I told you on the phone.... and shove it where the sun dont shine! cause In my heart... "what comes around goes around!!! and it will bite you in the ass!!!!!!! AKA KissthisAss!!!!
And to honestly think I was coming back to a great game with great people with great omg... what the hell am I saying!!!!
Mind you I could REALLY get into some personal issues with REALITY here with some of the players... yet I wont.... cause Im not a back stabbing person as you! Shall I call a few?????
ROTFLMAO... Im sure they could assist here couldnt they????
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